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  <title>Polls</title>
  <subtitle>Polls taken in the 29th District, and other polls related to the race.</subtitle>
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  <updated>2006-10-21T18:06:05-04:00</updated>
  <entry>
    <title>New Kuhl Poll:  Kuhl Ahead by 10 Points</title>
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    <published>2008-10-14T10:36:18-04:00</published>
    <updated>2008-10-14T10:36:18-04:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="News" />
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Reader Tom sends today's <a href="http://www.fighting29th.com/files/Corning_Leader_A3_2008_10_14.gif">Corning Leader story [gif]</a> about Randy Kuhl's new poll, which shows Kuhl leading by 10 points.  The poll has a small sample size (300 voters), and the Leader story doesn't indicate when the poll was in the field.</p>
<p>Kuhl's poll contradicts last week's findings by two independent pollsters, who found that Kuhl was behind by 6-7 points.</p>
    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Reader Tom sends today's <a href="http://www.fighting29th.com/files/Corning_Leader_A3_2008_10_14.gif">Corning Leader story [gif]</a> about Randy Kuhl's new poll, which shows Kuhl leading by 10 points.  The poll has a small sample size (300 voters), and the Leader story doesn't indicate when the poll was in the field.</p>
<p>Kuhl's poll contradicts last week's findings by two independent pollsters, who found that Kuhl was behind by 6-7 points.</p>
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  <entry>
    <title>Another Independent Poll Shows Massa Ahead</title>
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    <published>2008-10-09T16:41:24-04:00</published>
    <updated>2008-10-09T16:52:14-04:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Eric Massa leads Randy Kuhl 48% to 42%, according to a <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/9/13583/3986/260/625197">Research 2000 poll</a> taken in the 29th district Tuesday and Wednesday. </p>
<p>Though this poll was commissioned for the Daily Kos, Research 2000 is an independent organization and other Daily Kos/Research 2000 polls are considered high-quality products.  Kos posts full crosstabs, which show that Obama is leading McCain 48-45 in the 29th.  Bush beat Kerry by 14 points in the district in 2004.</p>
<p>The poll has a small sample size (400), with a 5% margin of error.  </p>
<p>(via <a href="http://www.thealbanyproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4705">The Albany Project</a>)</p>
    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Eric Massa leads Randy Kuhl 48% to 42%, according to a <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/9/13583/3986/260/625197">Research 2000 poll</a> taken in the 29th district Tuesday and Wednesday. </p>
<p>Though this poll was commissioned for the Daily Kos, Research 2000 is an independent organization and other Daily Kos/Research 2000 polls are considered high-quality products.  Kos posts full crosstabs, which show that Obama is leading McCain 48-45 in the 29th.  Bush beat Kerry by 14 points in the district in 2004.</p>
<p>The poll has a small sample size (400), with a 5% margin of error.  </p>
<p>(via <a href="http://www.thealbanyproject.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=4705">The Albany Project</a>)</p>
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  <entry>
    <title>SurveyUSA:  Massa 51, Kuhl 44</title>
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    <published>2008-10-07T06:23:22-04:00</published>
    <updated>2008-10-07T06:28:08-04:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/polls_dems_could_sweep_house_r.php">first independent poll for the 2008 cycle</a> shows Massa leading Kuhl by 7 points.  The poll was commissioned and <a href="http://www.rollcall.com/pdfs/Polls1007.pdf">published [pdf]</a> by the subscription-only Roll Call magazine.  </p>
<p><a href="http://fivethirtyeight.com">FiveThirtyEight</a> is a site that does extensive ranking of pollsters.  They rate SurveyUSA as the most accurate polling organization in the nation, as <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/04/pollster-ratings-v30.html">explained here.</a></p>
<p>(via <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2008/10/06/another-poll-shows-massa-leading-this-time-by-7/">Rochesterturning</a>)</p>
    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/polls_dems_could_sweep_house_r.php">first independent poll for the 2008 cycle</a> shows Massa leading Kuhl by 7 points.  The poll was commissioned and <a href="http://www.rollcall.com/pdfs/Polls1007.pdf">published [pdf]</a> by the subscription-only Roll Call magazine.  </p>
<p><a href="http://fivethirtyeight.com">FiveThirtyEight</a> is a site that does extensive ranking of pollsters.  They rate SurveyUSA as the most accurate polling organization in the nation, as <a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/04/pollster-ratings-v30.html">explained here.</a></p>
<p>(via <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2008/10/06/another-poll-shows-massa-leading-this-time-by-7/">Rochesterturning</a>)</p>
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  <entry>
    <title>DCCC Poll:  Massa 47, Kuhl 42</title>
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    <published>2008-10-06T14:17:57-04:00</published>
    <updated>2008-10-06T14:17:57-04:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The DCCC has <a href="http://dccc.org/blog/archives/ny_29_massa_leads_kuhl_47_42_percent_in_latest_poll/">released a poll</a> showing Eric Massa leading randy Kuhl by 5 points, with 13% undecided.  The poll's margin of error is 4.9%.</p>
<p>This is a poll by an interested party and should be taken with a grain of salt.  The last independent poll in the district was taken by the New York State Board of Elections in November, 2006.</p>
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    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The DCCC has <a href="http://dccc.org/blog/archives/ny_29_massa_leads_kuhl_47_42_percent_in_latest_poll/">released a poll</a> showing Eric Massa leading randy Kuhl by 5 points, with 13% undecided.  The poll's margin of error is 4.9%.</p>
<p>This is a poll by an interested party and should be taken with a grain of salt.  The last independent poll in the district was taken by the New York State Board of Elections in November, 2006.</p>
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  <entry>
    <title>NRCC Poll:  Kuhl Way Ahead</title>
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    <published>2008-05-13T07:56:53-04:00</published>
    <updated>2008-05-13T07:56:53-04:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="Audio" />
    <category term="Polls" />
    <category term="WNYCongress" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The National Republican Congressional Committee <a href="http://www.democratandchronicle.com/blogs/political/2008/05/republicans-say-kuhl-is-outpolling.html">has released the results</a> of a January poll that show Randy Kuhl 20 points ahead of Eric Massa.  As with all polls from candidates or their representatives, this one should be taken with a grain of salt.</p><p>
</p><p>The <a href="http://www.13wham.com/content/news/political/story.aspx?content_id=a3e0148e-5f2c-4ef6-b0ac-e8d0bffbb9ca">WHAM13 blog post</a> on the poll has the detail released by the pollster.  Here's the tell:</p>
<blockquote>
 Interview selection was random within predetermined election units.  These units were structured to correlate with actual voter turnout.
</blockquote>
<p>One of the most important characteristics of a poll is its likely voter screen, the questions that pollsters ask to judge whether the person responding will actually vote. These weasel-words dodge the question of how voters were selected.  With a sample size of 300, a slight tweak of the voter screen will lead to a huge effect in the poll's outcome.  That's where this ham was watered.</p>
<p>What's more interesting is why the NRCC would release a poll so old that the Presidential choice section doesn't even include the presumptive Democratic nominee.  The answer is that campaigns release these polls when they want to goose fundraising by convincing donors that their candidate has a chance.  Since Kuhl is trailing Massa in funds raised, this poll is no surprise.  What's really interesting is the weakness of this effort.  The NRCC is so broke that they can't even afford to pay for a fresh poll, so they release this chestnut.</p>
<p><b>Update:</b>  As Zabriskie points out in the comments, the poll was conducted by McLaughlin and Associates on January 27-28.  On January 30, <a href="http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00388173/332882/sb/ALL">the Kuhl campaign paid $16,215</a> to McLaughlin and Associates for a "Survey".  So the NRCC press release is leveraging an old Kuhl poll.  And the following assertion reported in the 13WHAM post is laughable:</p>
<blockquote>
“As far as the NRCC, Randy is a completely separate entity from the NRCC and really has no idea what they will or won’t do,” said Meghan Tisinger of Kuhl’s office.</blockquote>    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The National Republican Congressional Committee <a href="http://www.democratandchronicle.com/blogs/political/2008/05/republicans-say-kuhl-is-outpolling.html">has released the results</a> of a January poll that show Randy Kuhl 20 points ahead of Eric Massa.  As with all polls from candidates or their representatives, this one should be taken with a grain of salt.</p><p>
</p><p>The <a href="http://www.13wham.com/content/news/political/story.aspx?content_id=a3e0148e-5f2c-4ef6-b0ac-e8d0bffbb9ca">WHAM13 blog post</a> on the poll has the detail released by the pollster.  Here's the tell:</p>
<blockquote>
 Interview selection was random within predetermined election units.  These units were structured to correlate with actual voter turnout.
</blockquote>
<p>One of the most important characteristics of a poll is its likely voter screen, the questions that pollsters ask to judge whether the person responding will actually vote. These weasel-words dodge the question of how voters were selected.  With a sample size of 300, a slight tweak of the voter screen will lead to a huge effect in the poll's outcome.  That's where this ham was watered.</p>
<p>What's more interesting is why the NRCC would release a poll so old that the Presidential choice section doesn't even include the presumptive Democratic nominee.  The answer is that campaigns release these polls when they want to goose fundraising by convincing donors that their candidate has a chance.  Since Kuhl is trailing Massa in funds raised, this poll is no surprise.  What's really interesting is the weakness of this effort.  The NRCC is so broke that they can't even afford to pay for a fresh poll, so they release this chestnut.</p>
<p><b>Update:</b>  As Zabriskie points out in the comments, the poll was conducted by McLaughlin and Associates on January 27-28.  On January 30, <a href="http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/dcdev/forms/C00388173/332882/sb/ALL">the Kuhl campaign paid $16,215</a> to McLaughlin and Associates for a "Survey".  So the NRCC press release is leveraging an old Kuhl poll.  And the following assertion reported in the 13WHAM post is laughable:</p>
<blockquote>
“As far as the NRCC, Randy is a completely separate entity from the NRCC and really has no idea what they will or won’t do,” said Meghan Tisinger of Kuhl’s office.</blockquote>    ]]></content>
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  <entry>
    <title>Morning Roundup</title>
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    <published>2007-10-18T08:27:20-04:00</published>
    <updated>2007-10-18T08:27:20-04:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="News" />
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[A new National Public Radio/Kaiser Foundation/Harvard poll on S-CHIP has been released, and pollster.com <a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_nprkaiser_family_foundati.php">has a summary</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp; The results are somewhat different from the USAToday/Gallup <a href="http://www.fighting29th.com/2007/10/usa-today-schip-poll.html">cited by Randy Kuhl</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp; When asked about the possibility of S-CHIP leading to people dropping private insurance, 65% said still favored S-CHIP expansion.&nbsp; 64% said they supported the veto override, and 52% said they weren't concerned about S-CHIP expansion leading to government-run health care.&nbsp;&nbsp; 35% said they would be less likely to support their Member of Congress if he or she voted to sustain the veto.<br /><br />The difference in the two surveys is in the phrasing of the questions.&nbsp; This shows that one poll by itself proves very little, a lesson that all of us should remember when it comes to polls in the 29th next year.&nbsp; The full detail on the NPR poll is <a href="http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/upload/7702.pdf">here [pdf]</a>, and the USAToday/Gallup detail is <a href="http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=29047">here</a>.&nbsp; <br /><br />In other news, the Hornell Evening Tribune <a href="http://www.eveningtribune.com/articles/2007/10/18/news/news02.txt">carries</a> a money roundup today, calling the money race "neck and neck".&nbsp; <br />
<br />Finally, my inability to punch in a 5-digit code correctly prevented me from covering the Massa press conference yesterday. <br />    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[A new National Public Radio/Kaiser Foundation/Harvard poll on S-CHIP has been released, and pollster.com <a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_nprkaiser_family_foundati.php">has a summary</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp; The results are somewhat different from the USAToday/Gallup <a href="http://www.fighting29th.com/2007/10/usa-today-schip-poll.html">cited by Randy Kuhl</a>.&nbsp;&nbsp; When asked about the possibility of S-CHIP leading to people dropping private insurance, 65% said still favored S-CHIP expansion.&nbsp; 64% said they supported the veto override, and 52% said they weren't concerned about S-CHIP expansion leading to government-run health care.&nbsp;&nbsp; 35% said they would be less likely to support their Member of Congress if he or she voted to sustain the veto.<br /><br />The difference in the two surveys is in the phrasing of the questions.&nbsp; This shows that one poll by itself proves very little, a lesson that all of us should remember when it comes to polls in the 29th next year.&nbsp; The full detail on the NPR poll is <a href="http://www.kff.org/kaiserpolls/upload/7702.pdf">here [pdf]</a>, and the USAToday/Gallup detail is <a href="http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=29047">here</a>.&nbsp; <br /><br />In other news, the Hornell Evening Tribune <a href="http://www.eveningtribune.com/articles/2007/10/18/news/news02.txt">carries</a> a money roundup today, calling the money race "neck and neck".&nbsp; <br />
<br />Finally, my inability to punch in a 5-digit code correctly prevented me from covering the Massa press conference yesterday. <br />    ]]></content>
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  <entry>
    <title>USA Today S-CHIP Poll</title>
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    <published>2007-10-16T20:55:46-04:00</published>
    <updated>2007-10-16T20:55:46-04:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="Analysis" />
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<a href="http://kuhl.house.gov/blog/index.php/2007/10/16/new-schip-poll-and-article/">Randy Kuhl's blog</a>, and the <a href="http://ontariogop.blogspot.com/2007/10/this-schip-wont-sail-part-3.html">Ontario GOP blog</a>, take encouragement from a <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-10-15-poll-schip_N.htm">USA Today/Gallup poll</a> on S-CHIP.&nbsp; Both note that a majority of those polled (55%) said they were "somewhat concerned" (33%) or "very concerned" (22%) that S-CHIP would be an incentive for the middle class to drop private health insurance. &nbsp; And another majority (52%) preferred Bush's plan to limit S-CHIP to a family of 4 making less than $41K, versus the Democrats' plan to make the upper limit $61K.<br /><br />Both Kuhl the the Ontario GOP omit another interesting statistic from that poll.&nbsp; When asked who they trust to get S-CHIP right, 52% say that they trust the Democrats.&nbsp; Only 32% trust the President.&nbsp;&nbsp; Another interesting fact:&nbsp; 17% of the respondents were following S-CHIP "very closely", and 34% "somewhat closely".&nbsp; Almost half of the public (49%) are following the issue "not too closely" or "not at all".<br /><br />So, when a generally uninformed public is presented specific facts on S-CHIP, they tend to agree with Republicans.&nbsp; When those facts are absent, their general distrust of the President governs their opinions.&nbsp; The news on S-CHIP could be worse, but this certainly doesn't qualify as good news for Republicans.<br /><br />Also, it's interesting to see Republicans in the same position where Democrats usually find themselves.&nbsp; The Republicans' position is based on a careful reading of the details.&nbsp; Democrats are aiming straight for the gut.&nbsp; When half of the public doesn't really care, the gut carries the day.<br /><br /><b>Update:&nbsp; </b>Via <a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_gallup_schip.php">pollster.com</a>, here's the Gallup <a href="http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=29047">writeup</a> on the poll.<br />    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<a href="http://kuhl.house.gov/blog/index.php/2007/10/16/new-schip-poll-and-article/">Randy Kuhl's blog</a>, and the <a href="http://ontariogop.blogspot.com/2007/10/this-schip-wont-sail-part-3.html">Ontario GOP blog</a>, take encouragement from a <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-10-15-poll-schip_N.htm">USA Today/Gallup poll</a> on S-CHIP.&nbsp; Both note that a majority of those polled (55%) said they were "somewhat concerned" (33%) or "very concerned" (22%) that S-CHIP would be an incentive for the middle class to drop private health insurance. &nbsp; And another majority (52%) preferred Bush's plan to limit S-CHIP to a family of 4 making less than $41K, versus the Democrats' plan to make the upper limit $61K.<br /><br />Both Kuhl the the Ontario GOP omit another interesting statistic from that poll.&nbsp; When asked who they trust to get S-CHIP right, 52% say that they trust the Democrats.&nbsp; Only 32% trust the President.&nbsp;&nbsp; Another interesting fact:&nbsp; 17% of the respondents were following S-CHIP "very closely", and 34% "somewhat closely".&nbsp; Almost half of the public (49%) are following the issue "not too closely" or "not at all".<br /><br />So, when a generally uninformed public is presented specific facts on S-CHIP, they tend to agree with Republicans.&nbsp; When those facts are absent, their general distrust of the President governs their opinions.&nbsp; The news on S-CHIP could be worse, but this certainly doesn't qualify as good news for Republicans.<br /><br />Also, it's interesting to see Republicans in the same position where Democrats usually find themselves.&nbsp; The Republicans' position is based on a careful reading of the details.&nbsp; Democrats are aiming straight for the gut.&nbsp; When half of the public doesn't really care, the gut carries the day.<br /><br /><b>Update:&nbsp; </b>Via <a href="http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_gallup_schip.php">pollster.com</a>, here's the Gallup <a href="http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=29047">writeup</a> on the poll.<br />    ]]></content>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Numerology</title>
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    <published>2006-11-30T07:05:19-05:00</published>
    <updated>2006-11-30T07:05:19-05:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There's been a lot of poll analysis in the last couple of weeks.  Today, Pollster.com <a href="http://www.pollster.com/mystery_pollster/house_districts_vs_poll_result.php">posted</a> a discussion of where their method of averaging available polls failed.  The 29th was one of those races.  No particular conclusions were drawn about the 29th, but it is clear that this district was very lightly polled.  When there's hardly any data to start with, any average is going to be more suspect.</p>
<p>Turning to the actual polls, Rochesterturning has been posting graphical interpretations of election results.  <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/29/ny-29-gains-from-2004-to-2006-by-county/">Today's post</a> shows that a significantly smaller percentage of voters voted for Kuhl in 2006 than in 2004 in almost every county.  This is especially interesting because the Conservative party fielded a candidate in 2004, as did the Independence party.  Both of those candidates should have taken some votes from Kuhl in '04 that he regained in '06.  In this analysis, and the other county-by-county <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/25/ny-29-candidate-performance-by-county-wpretty-graphs/">post</a>, keep in mind that the graphs are unweighted.  So, for example, when you see that Kuhl lost roughly 15% of his vote in Yates county, remember that Yates had just under 7,000 votes cast in 2006.  The 29th had about 200,000 voters in '06.</p>
<p>Rochesterturning also looked at <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/26/ny-29-massa-performance-by-county-demographics-wpretty-graphs/">correlations</a> between census data and voting patterns.  They found a positive relationship between income, education and a tendency to vote for Eric Massa.  There are two ways to interpret this data.  A partisan spin for Democrats is that smart people voted for Massa.  Republicans could argue that the Democrats are turning into the party of the elites, rather than the party of the "average working man".  I don't buy that.  I agree with RT that those numbers show that more educated people are more likely to inform themselves about the candidates in an election, and therefore are more likely to vote for a less-well-known challenger like Massa.  Also, the income split mirrors the North/South split in the 29th, with Monroe being the most wealthy county.  By registration, that county is also the most Democratic of the bunch.</p>    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There's been a lot of poll analysis in the last couple of weeks.  Today, Pollster.com <a href="http://www.pollster.com/mystery_pollster/house_districts_vs_poll_result.php">posted</a> a discussion of where their method of averaging available polls failed.  The 29th was one of those races.  No particular conclusions were drawn about the 29th, but it is clear that this district was very lightly polled.  When there's hardly any data to start with, any average is going to be more suspect.</p>
<p>Turning to the actual polls, Rochesterturning has been posting graphical interpretations of election results.  <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/29/ny-29-gains-from-2004-to-2006-by-county/">Today's post</a> shows that a significantly smaller percentage of voters voted for Kuhl in 2006 than in 2004 in almost every county.  This is especially interesting because the Conservative party fielded a candidate in 2004, as did the Independence party.  Both of those candidates should have taken some votes from Kuhl in '04 that he regained in '06.  In this analysis, and the other county-by-county <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/25/ny-29-candidate-performance-by-county-wpretty-graphs/">post</a>, keep in mind that the graphs are unweighted.  So, for example, when you see that Kuhl lost roughly 15% of his vote in Yates county, remember that Yates had just under 7,000 votes cast in 2006.  The 29th had about 200,000 voters in '06.</p>
<p>Rochesterturning also looked at <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/2006/11/26/ny-29-massa-performance-by-county-demographics-wpretty-graphs/">correlations</a> between census data and voting patterns.  They found a positive relationship between income, education and a tendency to vote for Eric Massa.  There are two ways to interpret this data.  A partisan spin for Democrats is that smart people voted for Massa.  Republicans could argue that the Democrats are turning into the party of the elites, rather than the party of the "average working man".  I don't buy that.  I agree with RT that those numbers show that more educated people are more likely to inform themselves about the candidates in an election, and therefore are more likely to vote for a less-well-known challenger like Massa.  Also, the income split mirrors the North/South split in the 29th, with Monroe being the most wealthy county.  By registration, that county is also the most Democratic of the bunch.</p>    ]]></content>
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    <title>Massa 53%, Kuhl 42%</title>
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    <id>http://www.fighting29th.com/2006/10/massa-53-kuhl-42.html</id>
    <published>2006-10-30T21:44:04-05:00</published>
    <updated>2006-10-30T21:44:04-05:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A new <a href="http://majoritywatch.com">Majority Watch</a> poll in the 29th, taken from October 24 to October 26 and released today, shows little movement from the last poll taken ten days earlier (52%/40%).&nbsp; The <a href="http://constituentdynamics.com/mw/2006/pdf/round3/NY29_round3.pdf">crosstabs [pdf]</a> are almost identical to the last one, and the <a href="http://www.fighting29th.com/2006/10/majority_watch_.html">same grim conclusions</a> can be drawn for the Kuhl campaign.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Looking through the races at pollster.com's <a href="http://www.pollster.com/house.php">House page</a>, it looks like NY-20 is still one of the area races where Majority Watch and other pollsters disagree.&nbsp; In that more heavily polled race, Majority Watch leans farther toward the Democrat, Kirsten Gillibrand, than even her own polls.&nbsp; Yet there are a number of other races were Majority Watch is consistent with other non-partisan polls.&nbsp; So this one could be dead on, or out to lunch.&nbsp; We'll find out a week from tomorrow.</p>    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A new <a href="http://majoritywatch.com">Majority Watch</a> poll in the 29th, taken from October 24 to October 26 and released today, shows little movement from the last poll taken ten days earlier (52%/40%).&nbsp; The <a href="http://constituentdynamics.com/mw/2006/pdf/round3/NY29_round3.pdf">crosstabs [pdf]</a> are almost identical to the last one, and the <a href="http://www.fighting29th.com/2006/10/majority_watch_.html">same grim conclusions</a> can be drawn for the Kuhl campaign.&nbsp; </p>

<p>Looking through the races at pollster.com's <a href="http://www.pollster.com/house.php">House page</a>, it looks like NY-20 is still one of the area races where Majority Watch and other pollsters disagree.&nbsp; In that more heavily polled race, Majority Watch leans farther toward the Democrat, Kirsten Gillibrand, than even her own polls.&nbsp; Yet there are a number of other races were Majority Watch is consistent with other non-partisan polls.&nbsp; So this one could be dead on, or out to lunch.&nbsp; We'll find out a week from tomorrow.</p>    ]]></content>
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  <entry>
    <title>Another Left-Wing Conspiracy</title>
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    <id>http://www.fighting29th.com/2006/10/another-left-wing-conspiracy.html</id>
    <published>2006-10-21T18:06:05-04:00</published>
    <updated>2006-10-21T18:06:05-04:00</updated>
    <author>
      <name>Rottenchester</name>
    </author>
    <category term="Analysis" />
    <category term="Polls" />
    <summary type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Kuhl's spokesman, Bob VanWicklin, <a href="http://www.the-leader.com/articles/2006/10/19/news/local02.txt">spins wildly</a> on the Majority Watch poll:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>It's a left-leaning group. I wouldn't call them independent. They're a group that wants to see a Democratic majority in Congress, from what I understand.</p></blockquote>
<p>Majority Watch is a project of <a href="http://www.constituentdynamics.com/about/index.php">Constituent Dynamics</a> and <a href="http://rtstrategies.com/">RT Strategies</a>.&nbsp; Constituent Dynamics is a recently established polling company trying to perfect IVR polls, or robo-polling.&nbsp; RT is a joint project of one Democrat and one Republican.&nbsp; They're the same firm that does polling for independent, well-respected political analyst <a href="http://cookpolitical.com/">Charlie Cook</a>.&nbsp; Many have called their polls wrong, nobody's called them biased.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>And we don't know anything about the methodology of the poll, other than the little information they gave, so we're sort of skeptical about the questions they may have asked, or how they asked them.</p></blockquote>
<p>A <a href="http://www.constituentdynamics.com/mw/methodology">full discussion</a> of methodology, as well as <a href="http://www.constituentdynamics.com/mw/2006/methodology/instrument_2006_08.pdf">every question asked in the poll [pdf]</a>, is easily accessible on the Majority Watch site.&nbsp; As for how the questions are asked, it's a robo-poll, so every question is asked the same way by a pre-recorded voice.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>It doesn't at all compute with any of our internal polling [...] So we'll just sort of discount it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Finally, after two heaping helpings of bullshit, a little bit of truthful spin.&nbsp; I expect spin from a flack, but Mr. VanWicklin's bull-to-spin ratio is chronically high.&nbsp; </p>    ]]></summary>
    <content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Kuhl's spokesman, Bob VanWicklin, <a href="http://www.the-leader.com/articles/2006/10/19/news/local02.txt">spins wildly</a> on the Majority Watch poll:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>It's a left-leaning group. I wouldn't call them independent. They're a group that wants to see a Democratic majority in Congress, from what I understand.</p></blockquote>
<p>Majority Watch is a project of <a href="http://www.constituentdynamics.com/about/index.php">Constituent Dynamics</a> and <a href="http://rtstrategies.com/">RT Strategies</a>.&nbsp; Constituent Dynamics is a recently established polling company trying to perfect IVR polls, or robo-polling.&nbsp; RT is a joint project of one Democrat and one Republican.&nbsp; They're the same firm that does polling for independent, well-respected political analyst <a href="http://cookpolitical.com/">Charlie Cook</a>.&nbsp; Many have called their polls wrong, nobody's called them biased.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>And we don't know anything about the methodology of the poll, other than the little information they gave, so we're sort of skeptical about the questions they may have asked, or how they asked them.</p></blockquote>
<p>A <a href="http://www.constituentdynamics.com/mw/methodology">full discussion</a> of methodology, as well as <a href="http://www.constituentdynamics.com/mw/2006/methodology/instrument_2006_08.pdf">every question asked in the poll [pdf]</a>, is easily accessible on the Majority Watch site.&nbsp; As for how the questions are asked, it's a robo-poll, so every question is asked the same way by a pre-recorded voice.</p>
<blockquote>
<p>It doesn't at all compute with any of our internal polling [...] So we'll just sort of discount it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Finally, after two heaping helpings of bullshit, a little bit of truthful spin.&nbsp; I expect spin from a flack, but Mr. VanWicklin's bull-to-spin ratio is chronically high.&nbsp; </p>    ]]></content>
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